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 Post subject: SOLD
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:03 am 
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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:20 am 
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How can the lease be assumed outta state? Won't Toyota loose their California green credits? What happened to this being a "Compliance Car"? Is the seller going to pay back the $2500 CARB rebate? Is the dealership? I keep seeing 2014 lease returns showing up on Toyota used car lots then being sold for top dollar out of state! What happens when the 5 o'clock news does a story on California tax payer money being wasted subsidising EV's that are now being sold out of state? Good bye rebates! This is why automobile manufactures "Crush" cars at the end of lease!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:03 pm 
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The credits and rebates have already been taken when the car was first leased. They no longer apply and is a non issue.

Yes the lease will definitely transfer and the unlimited mileage lease will be applicable to the new owner.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:04 pm 
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The credits do apply. When you take the rebate from CARB you agree to drive the car in California for 3 years. If you sell the car before the 3 years is up you must pay the money back!


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:11 pm 
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These two things are separate.
CARB credits go to the manufacturer.
The cash, ie. the $2500 that she got from the state as an incentive will get prorated and have to go back. She agreed to drive the car for 36 mmonths to get that $. Even if the car changes hands to someone next door to her, it's still prorated and required back.
Those two are different things.

Hoosier wrote:
The credits do apply. When you take the rebate from CARB you agree to drive the car in California for 3 years. If you sell the car before the 3 years is up you must pay the money back!

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2013 Rav4 EV Blue #2030 & 2014 Rav4 EV blue #3473
2012 Prius PlugIn
My son is a USMC Sergeant & am SO proud of him!


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:12 pm 
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[quote="Hoosier"]The credits do apply. When you take the rebate from CARB you agree to drive the car in California for 3 years. If you sell the car before the 3 years is up you must pay the money back![/quote]
That rebate check that you have to pay back has nothing to do with the credits California has already given to the manufacture of the car.

All you are doing is giving back a prorated amount of money back to California. That has absolutely nothing to do with the zero emissions credits that California gives Toyota.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:32 pm 
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I'm just saying Dianne should check with the Toyota Corporate lawyers before she tries releasing a California compliance car out-of-state. If the California Air Resource Board finds out Toyota is releasing electric vehicles out of state before the original lease is over, Toyota could be fined big money for being out of compliance. That's why dealers can't sell new Rav4 Ev's out of state. That's why dealers can't lease Rav4 Evs out of state. Doesn't anyone read Tony's posts about why Toyota was forced to build the Rav4 Ev in the first place? 2600 cars built for California.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:39 pm 
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LOL!
If Toyota Financial approves it, it's done. :roll:
Toyota Corporate Lawyers take care of Toyota corporate. I don't have to check with Corporate lawyers. I am not employed by them.
One can sell their own car with whatever means they want. So, she is permitted to sell her own car to anyone she wants. She can also ask TFS to let someone take the lease over, and if they say yes, they say yes.

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I'm just saying Dianne should check with the Toyota Corporate lawyers before she tries releasing a California compliance car out-of-state. If the California Air Resource Board finds out Toyota is releasing electric vehicles out of state before the original lease is over, Toyota could be fined big money for being out of compliance. That's why dealers can't sell new Rav4 Ev's out of state. That's why dealers can't lease Rav4 Evs out of state. Doesn't anyone read Tony's posts about why Toyota was forced to build the Rav4 Ev in the first place? 2600 cars built for California.

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Carson Toyota in Sunny SoCal
949-689-0717 cell
310-522-2317 office
In my garage:
2013 Rav4 EV Blue #2030 & 2014 Rav4 EV blue #3473
2012 Prius PlugIn
My son is a USMC Sergeant & am SO proud of him!


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:52 pm 
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Lmao. Who does this guy think he is challenging Dianne like that!

Haha jk

He's new so we will let it slide.

Ps a 2014 with 18 k on it is a used vehicle and all bets are off, it can go anywhere as long as the buyer is willing to roll the dice with warranty issues.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 Rav4 EV for sale - blue - 18K miles, local car!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:25 pm 
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So here's the scam. Lease a new 2014 Rav4 Ev...steal the $2500 CARB rebate and use it to make lease payments for 5 months. Dump the car on an out of state buyer (without paying back the $2500 rebate) then lease another Rav4 Ev...take another $2500 CARB rebate and start all over again. New car for a year on the California tax payer dollar. Nothing criminal here....


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