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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:58 pm 
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Another one of these EVRUS units popped up in Tulare.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:58 pm 
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That station at least makes some sense. It is 65 miles from Bakersfield, and the only DCFC here is at the Nissan Dealer. The next stop on the line is the Nissan Dealer in Visalia which is a ways off the CA-99 freeway. The next stop north is an NRG EVgo in Selma, about 30 miles from Tulare. I can see getting a partial charge in Tulare and then going to Selma or Fresno (55 miles from Tulare) to fill up. I wish he would install his station in the Castaic area or the Lebec area as those are spots that seriously need a charger.

I know I sound biased against Dr. Tran, but that is because I probably am. :twisted: He gamed the system, installing inferior products and thus making us wait for a better day.

Will I use his chargers? Probably, but just as you end up buying gas at the station that has a sign saying that the next gas station is 250 miles across the desert. Been there, done that, and wished I bought gas at the discount station 10 miles earlier. :roll:

BTW, I know we shouldn't compare electricity to gasoline but that gives us some idea of the pricing structure. The $10 RFID card will get you slightly under 12 kWh of electricity (after paying the $2.95 connect fee). That will drive your RAV about 40 miles. So you are effectively paying $10 for the energy equivalent of one gallon of gas.


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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:37 pm 
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If these stations had been installed in 2015, less than 18 months from award, nobody would be complaining because there was nothing to compare to. Now with NRG well into their build-out of redundant 50kW stations, these look so pitiful that I wonder why they bother. Well, I do know, it's all within the parameters of the original grant.

I suppose that the CEC learned their lesson and awarded real money, like 6X more, to overlay the I-5 and CA-99 corridors with modern chargers with electrical feeds capable of expansion to next generation chargers.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:46 am 
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I just noticed that there is NRG site with a pair of BTC chargers at the Save Mart in Truckee. So, there's no problem getting back from the North Lake Tahoe area to the fast charger in Rocklin down I-80, but we need one more station someplace like Colfax to make it quickly up I-80 to the Lake in a RAV4 EV with Jdemo. There is a free Clipper Creek CS-40 at the Colfax Amtrak station, so you can make it with 30-60 minutes on L2, but a L3 sure would be nice in that area.

There is also a dual standard station at the Raley's in Incline Village and two Save Mart locations in Reno. PlugShare pictures indicate the Reno Save Mart locations have single BTC chargers, so I assume the Raley's is the same. These single BTC chargers can run from the supermarket's existing electric feed since they take 208V 3-phase power just like the A/C and refrigeration inside the store.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:53 am 
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One more EVRUS 25kW unit at Econo Lodge Stockton.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:46 pm 
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miimura wrote:
I just noticed that there is NRG site with a pair of BTC chargers at the Save Mart in Truckee. So, there's no problem getting back from the North Lake Tahoe area to the fast charger in Rocklin down I-80, but we need one more station someplace like Colfax to make it quickly up I-80 to the Lake in a RAV4 EV with Jdemo. There is a free Clipper Creek CS-40 at the Colfax Amtrak station, so you can make it with 30-60 minutes on L2, but a L3 sure would be nice in that area.


If I win a couple tickets to go to the Gigafactory grand opening, I will probably drive the RAV4 EV up the 99.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 5:01 pm 
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I hope this might give us more charging spots:

http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/07/the-white-house-hits-the-accelerator-pedal-to-increase-electric-vehicle-adoption/

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:05 am 
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so i'm seeing a 110 ish mile gap on 101 between fast chargers south of Salinas on plugshare.
Does that match reality?

I may be driving that run in about 2 weeks. there are L2s between so its *possible* to do it safely but i wouldnt have to drive slow enough to actually be guaranteed of making a 110 mile run on 101 (that section also has hills so its less efficient than one would like too)

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:15 pm 
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n3ckf wrote:
so i'm seeing a 110 ish mile gap on 101 between fast chargers south of Salinas on plugshare.
Does that match reality?

I may be driving that run in about 2 weeks. there are L2s between so its *possible* to do it safely but i wouldnt have to drive slow enough to actually be guaranteed of making a 110 mile run on 101 (that section also has hills so its less efficient than one would like too)
Google maps says it's 130 miles from the NRG station in Salinas to the one in San Luis Obispo. You have to drive pretty slow to make it without adding any electrons in between. The 70 amp charger at the Rabobank Atascadero is frequently occupied and it is only a single plug. You will probably have a better chance getting an available plug at the Paso Robles Park and Ride.

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 Post subject: Re: New California Corridor Fast Chargers Installed
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:13 am 
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that shows 99 miles from the Salinas charger to the Park & Ride so that seems doable. I suspect that charger is going to be where most of the downtime is for this trip then.

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