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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:02 am 
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The lease on my 2012 Leaf is about to expire. (For my sanity, I'm glad. We signed the lease shortly before the big price drop on the Leaf so, while the car has been convenient, the amount of the lease payment grates on my nerves every month.) Nevertheless, we were planning to lease another Leaf (under much more favorable terms) until I test drove a RAV4 EV. Now, I can't decide.

We have twins who are 7 years old so we typically use our Honda Odyssey to cart them around, making the Leaf the spare car for the remaining driver. Anytime we take both kids in the Leaf they grumble about being crowded in the back seat. We're still using their car seats so two of them do take up a lot of room.

As a result of using the Leaf primarily as a spare car for short trips around town (we're in an East Bay suburb), in the 36-months we've had the Leaf, we only put 19K miles on it.

We're giving serious consideration to the RAV4 EV. It's a bit pricier (a zero down, $410/mo lease for 35 months - the first month lease payment, taxes, and fees are coming out of the $18K incentive) than the Leaf-SV lease we were offered (a zero down $295/mo for 35 months - the first month lease payment, taxes, fees, are coming out of the Leaf incentive), but I think the boys would find it more comfortable, especially since we're about to switch from their car seats to booster seats which will take up much less room, making us more apt to drive it rather than the minivan.

I just wanted to say that your forum has been informative and given us much food for thought. There seem to have been some serious issues and some headache issues with the RAV4 EV, but it also seems many of you are happy with your vehicles. I'm leaning towards the RAV4 EV (curiosity to try something different, roomier, a longer range than the Leaf), but my spouse is leaning towards another Leaf (lower price, the devil we know v. the devil we don't know).

Again, your forum has been very useful.


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:18 am 
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You didn't say where you are located. My family could have gotten by with any EV as a "second car" as you said you have been using your Leaf. However, I wanted the ability to use the EV for all our weekend driving around the places we usually go in the SF Bay Area. The RAV4 EV is that car for us. Our old gas car is definitely the "second car" and always gets left at home when we go out as a family. I have only left the RAV at home once in 18 months due to range ability - and that was a week long vacation to San Diego this past summer when we took our dog. If we didn't want to take the dog we would have flown down. My wife and I already decided that we don't need a gas car, we just don't want to take on another car payment right now.

So, I would encourage you to get the RAV and minimize your use of the minivan and its gas consumption.

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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:37 am 
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miimura wrote:
You didn't say where you are located. My family could have gotten by with any EV as a "second car" as you said you have been using your Leaf. However, I wanted the ability to use the EV for all our weekend driving around the places we usually go in the SF Bay Area. The RAV4 EV is that car for us. Our old gas car is definitely the "second car" and always gets left at home when we go out as a family. I have only left the RAV at home once in 18 months due to range ability - and that was a week long vacation to San Diego this past summer when we took our dog. If we didn't want to take the dog we would have flown down. My wife and I already decided that we don't need a gas car, we just don't want to take on another car payment right now.

So, I would encourage you to get the RAV and minimize your use of the minivan and its gas consumption.


Thanks for the info! We are in the East Bay - Walnut Creek. I'm thinking the roominess of the RAV4 would allow us to use it much more than we did the Leaf.


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:14 pm 
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I had two Nissan LEAF's with two kids. The RAV4 is easily the better choice, just from the kid perspective.

Not worrying about range all the time is a huge plus. More room, more power, more acceleration, Tesla engineering and pedigree, et al, is easily worth $130 per month.

In three years, there won't be another RAV4 EV, but perhaps Toyota can sell you that hydrogen car they've been telling us is the answer to those bad EV's.


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:24 pm 
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ElectraDaddy wrote:
Thanks for the info! We are in the East Bay - Walnut Creek. I'm thinking the roominess of the RAV4 would allow us to use it much more than we did the Leaf.

Just for another anecdote, last weekend my GIS class was participating in a field study of the LA river that involved about 120 miles of driving across the region. I volunteered to drive one of the carpools in the RAV. Despite spending the day with 4 adults in the RAV4 (two of which were also football players), plus data collection gear and other misc supplies in the trunk, and warm temperatures, everyone was very comfortable and we made it back with plenty of range to spare. I wouldn't have attempted that in my old LEAF even if range weren't an issue, and if I borrowed my dad's Volt we would've been stuffed in the car like sardines in a can.

I've also transported my 80 year old grandparents, my dad, my girlfriend, and myself all in the RAV4 across town at rush hour and everyone was pretty happy. Before I got the RAV we would take two cars (LEAF and Volt or Focus) to do such trips. Rear seat leg room in the RAV4 is superb, which really helps.

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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
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Pulled the trigger and leased a RAV4 EV (#3297) this afternoon. $412.33 + tax for 35 months with $0 down at drive-off. Mileage allowed is 36K.


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
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Congrats. Good choice! Our two kids 9,12, love the roominess and reclineable back seats of the RavEV. We love the easy 110 miles std charge range (135 full charge). However I gotta say, the LEAF is a noticeably smoother and quieter ride. Driving the LEAF is driving electric. The Rav feels like a regular small suv for what it is, much more utility, and the EV of choice during the weekend outings now.

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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:43 pm 
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Where in No. Cal to get this deal now?

$412.33 + tax for 35 months with $0 down at drive-off


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
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The list is above. Call them all and hope you get one.
Otherwise they are sold out.


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 Post subject: Re: How many RAV4EVs are still available? 70 as of 15 Nov 20
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:16 pm 
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[quote="TonyWilliams" Tesla engineering and pedigree, et al, is easily worth $130 per month.

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