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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:08 pm 
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I am looking at purchasing and shipping a RAV4 EV through CarMax out of California.
The CarMax Warranty seems to be comparable to the Toyota Platinum Warranty (covers almost everything outside of consumables and battery), I was quoted 60 months/75,000 miles starting from my purchase date for $1,250.
As a sanity check to current owners, does going this route make sense for $22k for a 2014?


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:17 pm 
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How many miles are on that 2014 model? 22K and $1250 for the warranty sounds like a steal. I would suggest that you not purchase the vehicle, but to send me the contact details. I will then purchase it and tell you how it went.

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:49 pm 
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jabroni420 wrote:
I am looking at purchasing and shipping a RAV4 EV through CarMax out of California.
The CarMax Warranty seems to be comparable to the Toyota Platinum Warranty (covers almost everything outside of consumables and battery), I was quoted 60 months/75,000 miles starting from my purchase date for $1,250.
As a sanity check to current owners, does going this route make sense for $22k for a 2014?
When the underwriter of the CarMax warranty gets a bill or quote for $13,000 for a drive unit, do you really think they're going to pay it? I don't think any third party warranty will be worth the hassle compared to the Toyota extended warranty, even the "Used Car" one that you can get outside the 3/36k new car period.

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:40 pm 
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I just heard back from the local CarMax operations manager, I have in email " the electric motor and the charging port would both be covered by the maxcare service plan".
I can only get the warranty contract when I purchase so it will be up to me to verify in the fine print.
Again, this is an additional 5 years and 70,000 miles for $1,259.
Do any current owners have any thing else to recommend I verify is covered by this warranty before purchasing?


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:23 pm 
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jabroni420 wrote:
I just heard back from the local CarMax operations manager, I have in email " the electric motor and the charging port would both be covered by the maxcare service plan".
I can only get the warranty contract when I purchase so it will be up to me to verify in the fine print.
Again, this is an additional 5 years and 70,000 miles for $1,259.
Do any current owners have any thing else to recommend I verify is covered by this warranty before purchasing?
The following are all important EV-specific items that have been known to fail:
- Cabin Heater
- On-Board Charger
- DC/DC Converter
- EV Gateway ECU

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:23 am 
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jabroni420 wrote:
I just heard back from the local CarMax operations manager, I have in email " the electric motor and the charging port would both be covered by the maxcare service plan".
I can only get the warranty contract when I purchase so it will be up to me to verify in the fine print.
Again, this is an additional 5 years and 70,000 miles for $1,259.
Do any current owners have any thing else to recommend I verify is covered by this warranty before purchasing?


I think it's silly to risk NOT having the Toyota Platinum warranty (if that's available to you). If not, then good luck with this one. I wouldn't bet anything on an email from anybody. It's either in the warranty, or its not. They absolutely will take your money, however.

If you think the email is "real", ask them to show you with the ACTUAL WORDS of the warranty where it covers:

1) electrically powered cabin heater
2) onboard electric vehicle charger
3) 3 phase electric inverter
4) DC to DC electric converter
5) electric drive motor (I will guess that they specifically disallow electric motors, or electronics)
6) electric powered center navigation screen
7) gateway computer

Be sure and read all the things it disallows, like electrical items, wear items like batteries (the one in this car costs $36,000), etc.

Again, I wouldn't waste my time buying an aftermarket warranty for this car except to make you feel warm and fuzzy and "save a few dollars".

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:32 pm 
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fred_dot_u wrote:
This thread is right on the mark for our current situation. Our legacy Rav4EVs are getting tired. My wife's is losing range and mine is disabled at the moment for a failed thermal sensor. It's time we moved into the current century by buying a newer model.

I've been putting out feelers and found three that fit our requirements and perhaps also the requirements about which I've read, regarding the extended warranty.

I understand from my reading that if the Rav4EV has fewer than 36,000 miles, it qualifies for the buyer to purchase an extended warranty. The first dealer I've contacted tells me that the vehicle has to be shipped to California (from our home in FL) for warranty repairs. The other part of the phone message appears to indicate that the dealer is not familiar with Toyota's warranty program. I'm certainly not familiar with it either and had hoped the dealer would do the necessary research to verify the program.

I've also read that it is not required to ship the vehicle to CA for warranty repairs.

Can anyone offer officially recognized links regarding both the requirements and restrictions on the extended warranty and also on the location/shipping for warranty repair situations?


I own a RAV4 EV in Denver.

1) Extended warranty is available if the car has less than 36k miles on it AND also its in-service date was less than 36 months ago. This is for the product you want, the Toyota Platinum VSA. As evidenced in other threads shop around for price on that--any Toyota dealer can sell it and the profit margin is obscene at list price, well over 50%.

2) Service technically must be done in California. That said, in Denver I've had the one drivetrain-related recall performed on it at a local dealer. There's a regional rep who comes around once per month and he alone is authorized to work on it. This may be a special arrangement since there are about a half dozen RAV4 EVs in the Denver metro area, I am told.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:34 pm 
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miimura wrote:
jabroni420 wrote:
I am looking at purchasing and shipping a RAV4 EV through CarMax out of California.
The CarMax Warranty seems to be comparable to the Toyota Platinum Warranty (covers almost everything outside of consumables and battery), I was quoted 60 months/75,000 miles starting from my purchase date for $1,250.
As a sanity check to current owners, does going this route make sense for $22k for a 2014?
When the underwriter of the CarMax warranty gets a bill or quote for $13,000 for a drive unit, do you really think they're going to pay it? I don't think any third party warranty will be worth the hassle compared to the Toyota extended warranty, even the "Used Car" one that you can get outside the 3/36k new car period.


CarMax's warranty is legit. They will pay. Look up Doug DeMuro's travails with a Range Rover for an illustration of this.

That said, a good price on a Toyota Platinum VSA will be cheaper than the comparable MaxCare plan, so why not just go with Toyota?


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:56 pm 
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We took delivery of our "new" 2013 Rav4EV just after Christmas. I'm sure we paid a premium but we have a vehicle that is only now just over 20,000 miles and is in beautiful shape. I expect that the new-car smell came from an aerosol can, but it's believable for this car. The interior is spotless, there are no dings or scratches, it's simply beautiful. It's a darn good thing the manuals were included. It took me a while just to figure out the HAL9000 built into the dashboard. At least it doesn't say "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."

It's barely larger than our legacy 2002/2003 Rav4EVs but feels twice the size. So darn quiet too, even compared to the legacy versions.

My wife has a heavier foot and is getting a bit more than one mile per one GOM, while I can get 1.5 miles for each GOM figure. I'm a serious hypermiler, while she just drives it.

Part of our dealer "negotiations" was that I got free delivery from the cold, frozen north, as the owner drives to Florida for the holiday. He pulled a fully enclosed trailer with the car inside, keeping it clean for us. That saved us about a grand, but we paid almost two grand for the five year extended warranty, Toyota Platinum. The dealer from whom we purchased the vehicle confirmed that Toyota will send a tech to the local dealer if service under warranty is required.

We now have a 2013 in great condition, a 2003 in mediocre condition, as the pack is down to 60 miles per charge, and my 2002 with a failed battery thermal sensor. If I can find another deal on a low-mileage 201x model, the older ones are going to the curb!

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a Rav4 outside of CA
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:37 pm 
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shikataganai wrote:
CarMax's warranty is legit. They will pay. Look up Doug DeMuro's travails with a Range Rover for an illustration of this.

That said, a good price on a Toyota Platinum VSA will be cheaper than the comparable MaxCare plan, so why not just go with Toyota?


Nobody is disputing, or even suggesting that CarMax doesn't have a reputable warranty. I'm confident any traditional (oil burning) car is well taken of.

I'm equally confident that somehow there are exclusions in the warranty that would seriously impact things that go wrong on a RAV4 EV.

So, as soon as somebody has a drive motor ($15k) or high voltage battery ($36k) replaced by the CarMax warranty, then I'll believe it. Any insurance would just TOTAL (write-off) the car when faced with that kind of bill.

Plus, adding yet another party into an already somewhat convoluted warranty process that involves three parties today (Tesla, Toyota USA, and the privately owned Toyota dealer) doesn't sound wise.

Finally, would CarMax replace my whiny motor (probably the number one repair on the RAV4). I doubt it... it would have to outright fail, which may not happen until well outside the stated warranty period.

The Toyota Platinum warranty is about as rock solid (and PROVEN to be so) as any warranty product you could buy. It is essential for peace of mind when operating these cars.

When we all have cars that are 7-10 years old, and outside any warranty, and that first large repair bill comes, most people will just sell the car "as-is". My brother just did this with a diesel pickup that destroyed the motor. The repair bill was greater than the value of the car, so it was cheaper to give it away and buy something different.

Anyhoo, my advice as always is to stick with Toyota for this very unique car. Actually, the more I think about it, I can't imagine being out-of-state with a repair shop who knows next to nothing about the car, negotiating with a a warranty manager who also knows nothing about the car.

Save your sanity. The Toyota Platinum warranty is available for all RAV4 EV, whether:

1) "Used" - over 3 year 36,000 miles... may require Toyota inspection, or

2) "New" - any car still covered under its original Toyota vehicle warranty

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