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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:35 am 
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waidy wrote:
Perhaps the 2013 model has couple of extra items that the 2012 doesn't have, OR at least they were not in my 2012 Ravs. According to http://www.toyota.com/content/ebrochure ... ochure.pdf‎ Page 3 last line: "Tire repair system included". Then on Page 4 under Charging time, it has "16Amp 240" (not sure whether it implies 2013 mobile EVSE has 16Amp Capability). Would 2012 Rav4EVians please comment?


I don't think the 2013 cars are getting anything that we 2012 cars didn't get. You will find your tire repair system is behind the right side panel in the very rear of the car.
I think the reference to 16Amp 240 is about charging times for various Amp/Volt combos. I did get a 120 Volt 12 Amp charging cord which takes 44hrs to charge. I also installed a 240volt 30 Amp EVSE which takes 6.5 hours for a full charge.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 3:48 pm 
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Ampster wrote:
I don't think the 2013 cars are getting anything that we 2012 cars didn't get. You will find your tire repair system is behind the right side panel in the very rear of the car.

Thanks for the pointer. I thought those nice looking wrapped packages were first aid kit. Now I know they are the tire repair kit.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:22 pm 
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waidy wrote:
Thanks for the pointer. I thought those nice looking wrapped packages were first aid kit. Now I know they are the tire repair kit.


LOL, let's hope we never need either.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:22 pm 
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TonyWilliams wrote:
...Gas gauge that stops at 80% full??? .....


I wouldn't complain. my gas guzzler (2007 Prius) has the same sort of issue: ~100 miles of first pip and 400 over the next 9...


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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 1:09 am 
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essaunders wrote:
TonyWilliams wrote:
...Gas gauge that stops at 80% full??? .....


I wouldn't complain. my gas guzzler (2007 Prius) has the same sort of issue: ~100 miles of first pip and 400 over the next 9...

I know the Prius issue that you're referring to. The 1st pip of gasoline can sometimes last for MANY miles.

I believe Tony's complaint is that there's no way to tell the difference between a standard and extended charge. Charging to "full" on both yields the same # of fuel bars. Since I don't have a Rav4 EV, I'm not sure if extended charge == 1st pip (and others?) lasting a lot long than in standard charge.

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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:30 am 
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On regular charge the 1st bar will drop after about 7 miles of normal driving. On extended charge the bar will drop after about 25 miles.


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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:44 am 
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rayray wrote:
On regular charge the 1st bar will drop after about 7 miles of normal driving. On extended charge the bar will drop after about 25 miles.

I think the fundamental problem is that, by not displaying the 100% scale confuses drivers on the State of Charge. For example, drivers (especially new EV owners) would interpret 8 bars as 50% SOC (or half a tank). In reality, it is 40%. when they see 4 bars, they think they have 25% but only 20%.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:12 am 
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I certainly assumed that 6 bars was 50% when I took my first long trip on Monday. With my first week commuting I drove over 30 miles, possibly 40 before the first bar disappeared. I'm assuming this was on standard charge.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 5:55 am 
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If it takes 20+ miles for your first bar to disappear you were on an extended charge.

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 Post subject: Re: My Complaint Rant
PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:18 am 
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arnolddeleon wrote:
I certainly assumed that 6 bars was 50% when I took my first long trip on Monday


Here's what 50% looks like, with 10 of 16 fuel bar segments illuminated. Disregard what the GOM says:


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