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 Post subject: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:38 pm 
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MOD EDIT: THIS RECALL HAS BEEN SATISFIED WITH FIRMWARE UPDATE 1.3.101

Recall for possible issue with car going to into neutral:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/ ... 8220150311

http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/to ... arch11.htm

I heard about it first from the Tesla Motors forum:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthre ... -EV/page88

[fixed the links, damn FB not showing the full link when I doing doing my cut & paste]

arnold


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:22 pm 
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Thanks for the info - very interesting. Here's a direct link:

http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/toyota+recall+camry+highlander+rav4+march11.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:51 pm 
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Great, they will update the software and create new worse issue :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:08 pm 
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FWIW, I'm at Oxnard Toyota for the 10K. They mentioned the recall and said they didn't have any information on it yet. The Service Manager volunteered that Toyota is considering a mass buyback. One guy at one small dealership doesn't make so, but maybe it shows the frustration Toyota is having.


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:47 pm 
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mysticmotz wrote:
There is something strange in the press release. It says approximately 2,500 RAV EVs are effected. Correct if I am wrong but I thought Toyota built 2,500 RAV4 EVs a year for 3 years meaning they have sold a little over 7,500 units.

So either they misstated how many cars are involved in the recall or the recall is on a specific version of the firmware. It would be nice to know what the real facts are.


I don't see how you came to this conclusion on the press release... 2500 were built (2538 actually).


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:01 pm 
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No!!!!!!!!! I hope they fix the issue and not do a buyback. The only other full electric this size and about the same size might be the Mercedes but the range sucks.

"Owners of the involved vehicles will receive a notification by first class mail. Toyota dealers will repair the electric vehicle traction motor assembly."

I wonder if this was the issue with my car when I loss total traction on the freeway. After a couple ON/OFF sessions, the car went back to normal. I did take the car in and they couldn't find anything wrong with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:53 pm 
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So there is an issue in the ECU in the motor as Tesla has controls in the traction system and they can't seem to fix it via an update only? If this is the case it would likely impact Teslas as well assuming the same native electronics in the drive. I don't see Toyota doing a buyback of all the cars unless the motor swap was so prohibitive or it's clever way to get out of the program and further issues and still get CARB credits. More likely a vague press release. If certified letters are delivered and not regular mail it could be interesting. In the very very unlikely chance that ever happened I would not take a pro-rated deal. Full refund, perhaps :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:13 pm 
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4EVEREV wrote:
So there is an issue in the ECU in the motor as Tesla has controls in the traction system and they can't seem to fix it via an update only? If this is the case it would likely impact Teslas as well assuming the same native electronics in the drive. I don't see Toyota doing a buyback of all the cars unless the motor swap was so prohibitive or it's clever way to get out of the program and further issues and still get CARB credits. More likely a vague press release. If certified letters are delivered and not regular mail it could be interesting. In the very very unlikely chance that ever happened I would not take a pro-rated deal. Full refund, perhaps :lol:


Uh. If Toyota willing, I might swap a fully loaded Lexus NX300h awd. They might save some money with me. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Recall for car going into neutral
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:52 am 
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They will update the software and be done with it.

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