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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:42 am 
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"Probably not related to the speed sensor / recall issue."
Funny, I took mine in for the speed sensor / recall and they changed out my Gateway ECU.
I did not get any explanation of how they were or were not related.

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:23 am 
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SeattleRav4 wrote:
"Probably not related to the speed sensor / recall issue."
Funny, I took mine in for the speed sensor / recall and they changed out my Gateway ECU.
I did not get any explanation of how they were or were not related.


The recall is merely a firmware upgrade (1.3.103) that prevents the car from popping into neutral when the speed sensor is not working / out-of-tolerance.

The gateway is normally related to a whole host of "Check EV" and other related bad things. It is the singular location where the Tesla and Toyota meet.


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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:25 pm 
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Finally getting the recall firmware update. I've been trying to avoid this since my car has not had any issues (except motor noise). But since I took it in for noise, they are performing the firmware update. They also agreed to replace the motor, finally.

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:33 am 
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Anyone know how we can verify that the firmware update was applied? From the nav screen, I only see these and they all look unchanged from before the recall work:

Software Update:
Navigation: VB503102
Bluetooth: 21.210

Gracenote Database Update
Ver 03451 [2011-01-1]

Map Informaiton
Map Version: 21-12-27 [2012-06-1]
Map Update ID: 1102-7226-0500-1530

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:59 am 
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Well it finally happened to me. I was sitting in my driveway trying to start the car to drive away and for 5 power on and off cycles, my car shifted into neutral when i tried to shift into drive. Each time it flashed a steering wheel locked message and all of the dash lights lit up. Finally, on the 6th try, it allowed me to shift into drive and acted as if nothing had just happened. Wow would that be scary on the road. Going to get the recall asap.

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:32 am 
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ken830 wrote:
Anyone know how we can verify that the firmware update was applied? From the nav screen, I only see these and they all look unchanged from before the recall work:

Mine was updated today.

I can tell because....

the auto headlights were turned off
interior dome light moved to off position
charging schedule put on hold
radio was off
navigation display settings were changed
additional 20 miles added to the DTE meter

Will see what else I discover tomorrow ;)


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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:07 am 
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smkettner wrote:
ken830 wrote:
Anyone know how we can verify that the firmware update was applied? From the nav screen, I only see these and they all look unchanged from before the recall work:

Mine was updated today.

I can tell because....

the auto headlights were turned off
interior dome light moved to off position
charging schedule put on hold
radio was off
navigation display settings were changed
additional 20 miles added to the DTE meter

Will see what else I discover tomorrow ;)


None of my settings were changed. From what I gather, there is no way to confirm that the work was done.

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:09 am 
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ken830 wrote:
From what I gather, there is no way to confirm that the work was done.
Techstream software and an appropriate OBD cable can tell you. I hear everything you need is available on the internet these days.

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:17 pm 
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Didn't you get a sticker under the hood to reflect the firmware upgrade?

The tech who came up to do 5-6 recalls in Kirkland, WA "forgot" or didn't have them. I spoke with the service manager and told him that it was "required" or at least required by ME. He pledged to get it for me. I suggested that he really needed to get them for every customer who had the work done.

A week later they came in and he popped mine into the mail. Don't know if the others got theirs. All it says for the Authorized Modifications made:

FOI
Dealer Code 46089
Date: 11-13-15

I wish it was more specific to indicate WHICH firmware version was installed! What is your experience when you had your updated?

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 Post subject: Re: RECALL: going into neutral / Speed Sensor failure
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:55 pm 
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"FOI" is the recall campaign ID. The firmware revision is specified in the recall campaign. Earlier in this thread it is specified to be 1.3.103.

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