Automakers ask Trump not to make them produce electric cars

"Not even two days after Donald Trump’s election, automakers have started their lobbying effort to weaken the requirements for fuel consumption reduction. The current goal is for a fleet average of more than 50 mpg by 2025, which would require automakers to produce more electric vehicles in their fleet to compensate for popular gas-guzzling pickup trucks and SUVs."

from:

https://electrek.co/2016/11/11/auto...cars-in-first-lobbying-effort-since-election/

Auto manufacturer's Oct 19, 2012 request to EPA for waiver from CARB:

http://www.globalautomakers.org/sites/default/files/document/attachments/JointCommentsCAWaiverRequest10-19-12.pdf

"It is highly unlikely that the required infrastructure and the level of consumer demand for ZEVs will be sufficient by MY2018 in either California or in the individual Section 177 States to support the ZEV sales requirements mandated by CARB. EPA should therefore deny, at the present time, California’s waiver request for the ZEV program for these model years. During the interim, Global Automakers and the Alliance believe that California and EPA, with full auto industry participation, should implement a review for the ZEV program similar to the mid-term review process adopted under the federal GHG and CAFE regulations for MYs2017 through 2025."

That's a whole lot of gobbledy goop to say, "keep the traveling provision so we can only sell cars in California at the minimum number, and not sell any in the other CARB states."

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November 10, 2016, two days after the election of Trump, "Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers" request relief from California Air Resources Board (CARB) Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandates, U.S. government Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) requirements for Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE), plus weakening of autonomous car rules.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-regulations-trump-exclusive-idUSKBN1352EI


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CARB states - Arizona, California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, District of Columbia.

CARB-Zero Emission Vehicle states - California’s ZEV program has now been adopted by the states of Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. These states, known as the “Section 177 states,” have chosen to adopt California's air quality standards in lieu of federal requirements as authorized under Section 177 of the federal Clean Air Act. Additionally, California’s GHG standards are now spelled out federal law. Maine, Washington DC and New Jersey are participating with ZEV initiatives, but are not signatory CARB-ZEV states.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/regact/2014/zev2014/zev14isor.pdf

Currently, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Nissan, and Toyota are classified as large volume manufacturers (LVM), and are required to produce pure ZEVs for compliance. BMW, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, and Volkswagen are grouped with the LVMs because they are expected to transition to LVM ZEV requirements by the 2018 model year. Intermediate volume manufacturers (IVM) – Jaguar Land Rover, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Volvo – are also required to comply with the ZEV requirements, but are allowed to meet their obligation completely with Transitional ZEVs (usually plug in hybrids).

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None of these people have read the Constitution have they?

Laws require Congress to be involved, so calling Trump up is only half of the problem (if that).

Of course, its not only them. Putin rang up today to get a better deal too....

n3ckf said:

None of these people have read the Constitution have they?

Laws require Congress to be involved, so calling Trump up is only half of the problem (if that).

Of course, its not only them. Putin rang up today to get a better deal too....

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The President writes a budget and sends it to Congress. The President appoints administrators who write the regulations that implement policies like these (the devil's in the details). The President also wields great influence. Besides nobody said they weren't also asking Congress.

Lobbyists will talk to anyone who will take their calls.

The Environmental Protection Agency rules that auto makers are requesting to be changed do not require an act of Congress. These are administrative tasks by a US government agency empowered by the Congress to make those rules.

If Donald Trump orders the Environmental Protection Agency to no longer allow an exemption for Section 177 of the EPA rules (that allows the state of California to use CARB-ZEV rules in other states), then that's likely exactly what they will do.