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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:32 pm 
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Thank you so much for the super detailed process. I'm on my third drive unit. They replaced it last year and right before that year warranty was up on that one - it went out - coolant leak / seals. I'm hoping that this is true that Tesla fixed the issue this time. I got a unit after Feb 2019... and Alex at Toyota confirmed that Tesla held them up for this "revision" to be done to all the units they had. I'm already preparing for this unit to go bad - hopefully before a year warranty is up. I'm a DIY kind of guy so having this post in my back pocket makes me feel a little more at ease if I am ever at a point where it happens out of warranty.

Thanks again for the great work.


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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:49 pm 
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My 2013 RAV4EV makes a winding up sound on acceleration. It has gotten worse over the years. Toyota dealer replaced motors in 2014 or 2015, but while I hadn’t complained or noticed it prior to that, it has gotten very loud in the last few years. Is this what you’re referring to as milling, or caused by same? Toyota dealer quoted $10k-12k to repair, which I believe they said would be motor replacement again. Please advise. 74k miles. Would like to know if this is a safety issue. Also would appreciate any referral to NorCal shops that might charge less than Toyota dealers and know EVs. Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:10 pm 
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EV4ME+3 wrote:
My 2013 RAV4EV makes a winding up sound on acceleration. It has gotten worse over the years. Toyota dealer replaced motors in 2014 or 2015, but while I hadn’t complained or noticed it prior to that, it has gotten very loud in the last few years. Is this what you’re referring to as milling, or caused by same? Toyota dealer quoted $10k-12k to repair, which I believe they said would be motor replacement again. Please advise. 74k miles. Would like to know if this is a safety issue. Also would appreciate any referral to NorCal shops that might charge less than Toyota dealers and know EVs. Thanks.
It is advisable to record* these extraneous sounds to try to localize** the place of their source.
Possible reasons include (conventional and ceramic bearings, and differential ):
http://alflash.com.ua/2019/to_rav4ev/cause.jpg
Replacing bearings and oil seals will be much cheaper than replacing the entire motor assembly (motor, inverter and transmission).

Is the coolant level normal? Is there any trace of this liquid on the motor speed sensor?

* Video examples So
https://youtu.be/dEYsYZo8Oz8
https://youtu.be/0qT_So3RXDY
or so
https://youtu.be/YpodH7U_fWU
https://youtu.be/dIOWNmd8F-o
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https://youtu.be/BGl0XFcJy3k


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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:24 pm 
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EV4ME+3 wrote:
... Toyota dealer quoted $10k-12k to repair, which I believe they said would be motor replacement again. Please advise. 74k miles. Would like to know if this is a safety issue. Also would appreciate any referral to NorCal shops that might charge less than Toyota dealers and know EVs. Thanks.

You should contact Tony at QuickChargePower.com, they can possibly repair your current motor for less than a replacement from Toyota. If nothing else, they will know all of the options available.


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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:37 pm 
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davewill wrote:
You should contact Tony at QuickChargePower.com [ . . . ]

Tony appears to be out of business. He has not returned emails from me, nor returned a VM I left at his shop's phone number.

All "Services" on his website are "Sold Out", including the Tesla DU bearing replacement service @ $4k.

https://qccharge.com/products/repair-se ... or-bearing

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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:26 am 
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asavage wrote:
davewill wrote:
You should contact Tony at QuickChargePower.com [ . . . ]

Tony appears to be out of business. He has not returned emails from me, nor returned a VM I left at his shop's phone number.

All "Services" on his website are "Sold Out", including the Tesla DU bearing replacement service @ $4k.
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No he's still in business, I spoke with him a couple of weeks ago about replacing the J1772 inlet on my RAV. I didn't have him do it because Toyota covered it under my extended warranty, but he was willing to schedule it if I needed it. They were in the middle of moving locations, and it's the holidays. I'd give him a little more time.


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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:25 pm 
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asavage wrote:
... Tony appears to be out of business. He has not returned emails from me, nor returned a VM I left at his shop's phone number...
Take a look and try https://www.facebook.com/groups/ToyotaR ... 568893723/
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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:51 pm 
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No . . . I don't "do" Facebook. At all. Not even a peek. I actually instructed my investment company to pull my money from funds that have FB as part of their makeup. It took a while, because nearly every fund available to my portfolio has some FB in it, but eventually I got nearly all my investments out of FB.

I am very much not a fan of Zuckerberg's leadership. Their product is us. See "The Social Dilemma" for more information.

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From what someone emailed me . . . Tony is effectively out of business. Maybe he's got some side hustles, maybe he's shipping a few things, but my last convo with him was about a venture that involved a significant investment on my part -- more than the cost of several $4k motor repairs, for example -- and a verbal agreement on his part . . . and then radio silence. That's not "in business".

Just sayin' . . . he's not here anymore, and I've heard secondhand that he's left some other FB place (due to disharmony) and gone and created his own? Why is that?

EV4ME+3 is looking for a non-dealer repair option within a reasonable distance of NorCal -- they're basically in south Sacramento -- and San Diego (area) is a long way from NorCal. If shipping is involved, you can ship it anywhere. There has to be another option than QCP. The OP of this thread approached this as a DIY project, and many others have repaired the Model S version, so documentation is fairly widely available at this point for a competent mechanic to repair these. It doesn't require a certain specialist anymore, and should not command a specialist price tag, either.

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2018 Model 3 LR AWD, blue. 9.6kw solar
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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:10 pm 
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Tony moved the company to another facility and was essentially closed for more than a month during the move. Here is the updated information, copied from the FB group.

We will have all three of our new BendPak car lifts operational during the first week of January 2021.
Tony Williams
Founder/ CEO / Product Architect
QC CHARGE
1497 POINSETTIA AVE
Suite 154
VISTA, CA 92081-8542 USA
sales@QCcharge.com
www.QCcharge.com
Twitter: QCPower
1-760-798-0342 Office M-F, 9-5pm
1-844-EV-PARTS
1-844-387-2787

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 Post subject: Re: Milling noise FIX
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:33 am 
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I have been told that the Tony's FB group is private. Not a company communication channel, then.

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2014 Rav4 EV, Shoreline Blue Pearl, #2609, first use 04Jun2014, 49k miles (Aug2017), OpenEVSE 40A. First DU replacement May2018 59k.
2018 Model 3 LR AWD, blue. 9.6kw solar
1999 E300 on B100 (sold Sep2018)
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