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 Post subject: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:27 pm 
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My lease ends Sept. 2016. I consider getting a longer range vehicle as a next EV. But do they have powerful, smooth acceleration with freeway driving without a huge decrease in range? Is their range 107 miles per charge and more with hyper-miling techniques?

Reliability and affordability are very important to me too. Recently I had to pay for replacing a cracked windshield. The warranty did not cover that according to the dealer.

Cracked windshield replacement: 3 weeks to complete due to rarity of replacement glass with a humidity sensor and inconvenient work schedule. Cost: $1209.40 versus $427.00 for ICE Toyota Rav4 2013 glass.

What is your experience with these issues? Thanks for your time.

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 Post subject: Re: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Why did insurance not cover the windshield?

Just to be perfectly clear, the only longer range EV than the 2012-2014 Toyota RAV4 EV will be:

1) GM / Chevrolet Bolt with 60kWh, available early 2017

2) Tesla Model 3, available early 2018

3) Tesla Model S or X (available now)

4) Nissan LEAF next generation with 50-60kWh - available 2017 - 2018

5) Tesla Roadster


Here's the results of cars we have tested. I expect the "30kWh" LEAF to match almost exactly the Kia Soul EV, with 26.5kWh usable.

Range at about 65mph indicated (100km / 62mph actual ground speed) on dry, hard surface level road with no wind or cabin climate control with new condition battery at 70F, battery capacity is "useable" amount, not advertised amount. Ranges are at maximum available charge and EPA rating is the maximum published.


BMW
i3 - 4.7 miles per kWh (213 wattHours per mile) * 18.8kWh = 89 miles (the "REx" version has less electric range)


VW
eGolf - 4.1 miles per kWh (244 wattHours per mile) * 24kWh = 100 miles


GM / Chevrolet
2014 Spark EV - 5 miles per kWh (200 wattHours per mile) * 19kWh = 95miles / EPA 82

2015 Spark EV - 5 miles per kWh (200 wattHours per mile) * 18kWh = 89 miles / EPA 82



Nissan
LEAF - 4 miles per kWh (250 wattHours per mile) * 21.3kWh = 85.2 miles / EPA 84



Daimler / Mercedes
B-Class ED - 3.6*** miles per kWh (278 wattHours per mile) * 31.5kWh = 113 miles / EPA 87


Toyota
Rav4 EV - 3.4 miles per kWh (295 wattHours per mile) * 41.8kWh = 142 miles / EPA 113



Kia
Soul EV - 4 miles per kWh (250 wattHours per mile) * 27kWh = 108 miles / EPA 93


*** Mercedes consumption meter is calibrated so that 3.6 miles per kWh will show 3.0 on the dash. The correction factor is 83.7%, or 1.2


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 Post subject: Re: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:48 am 
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Appreciate the real world numbers for range Tony.

When I was hypermiling going 45-50 mph on a combo of both freeway and highway driving, I drove 160 miles on the Rav and had 8 miles range remaining. It was 70+°. The most range I ever got with my 73 mile EPA range Leaf was 85 miles while hypermiling when it was brand new.

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 Post subject: Re: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:45 am 
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If you have a slightly heavy foot, your range will drop a lot in the Leaf. The Toyota handles heavy foot a lot better.


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 Post subject: Re: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:50 pm 
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longrangeview wrote:
Cracked windshield replacement: 3 weeks to complete due to rarity of replacement glass with a humidity sensor and inconvenient work schedule. Cost: $1209.40 versus $427.00 for ICE Toyota Rav4 2013 glass.


I just cracked mine while parked somewhere during this wind storm. Is it really $1200???? Gah!


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 Post subject: Re: Have any Rav4EV folks Driven Leaf with 107 miles range?
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:45 am 
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Yup. I just had mine replaced and it took 2 1/2 weeks because of the hard-to-find glass and special approval required from my insurance company before Safelite could take care of the work. Fortunately, mine was covered. The receipt I received indicated that total cost was over $1,200.


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