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 Post subject: Re: New RAV4 Owner w/questions
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 4:12 pm 
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Hey, everyone. I'm on Day 3 as an EV owner. I live in Arizona and bought my RAV4 EV in California. It turns out that the charging cord that came with it isn't so useful. An electrician who was working on my house said it looks like the plug has been replaced and shouldn't be used with a 110-V outlet. Is there any sort adapter I could get to make this work so I can plug it into a regular wall outlet (see photo below)? It would be kind of handy at work.

I'm looking for an EVSE for my house, and I've seen some good threads here about that. Thanks for the help!

EDIT: One other question: The best place to run a new line for ESVE is on the side of my house, which is close to the electrical panel. But it's also exposed to what little rain we get here. Any problems with that if I want to do a plug-in station instead of hard wired?

Should work on both 120 & 208/240 volt at 16 amps.
Look at this setup at amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Maxx-16-VOLTAGE-Portable-Electric-120V-240V/dp/B079C71RWF

It looks like you're right. However, it also looks like there are no manual controls to adjust the amperage, so it will overload a 120V 15 amp circuit by pulling 16 amps. If it does not automatically drop to 12 amps on 120V, that is not safe. They should provide a NEMA 5-20 adapter, not a NEMA 5-15.

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 Post subject: Re: New RAV4 Owner w/questions
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:48 pm 
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miimura wrote:
It looks like you're right. However, it also looks like there are no manual controls to adjust the amperage, so it will overload a 120V 15 amp circuit by pulling 16 amps. If it does not automatically drop to 12 amps on 120V, that is not safe. They should provide a NEMA 5-20 adapter, not a NEMA 5-15.


I tried to find a manual but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
It seems this unit is also sold as "duoside" evse:
https://duosidaevchargers.com/
Over there it also mentions it can use a 5-15 for L1 charging and 16 amps (20 amp rated plug) for L2 charging.
But it doesn't mention anywhere that it switches current depending on voltage detection.

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 Post subject: Re: New RAV4 Owner w/questions
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:44 pm 
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fromport wrote:
miimura wrote:
It looks like you're right. However, it also looks like there are no manual controls to adjust the amperage, so it will overload a 120V 15 amp circuit by pulling 16 amps. If it does not automatically drop to 12 amps on 120V, that is not safe. They should provide a NEMA 5-20 adapter, not a NEMA 5-15.


I tried to find a manual but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
It seems this unit is also sold as "duoside" evse:
https://duosidaevchargers.com/
Over there it also mentions it can use a 5-15 for L1 charging and 16 amps (20 amp rated plug) for L2 charging.
But it doesn't mention anywhere that it switches current depending on voltage detection.


It does say it automatically detects "110v" and then uses a 5-15 plug. It probably* does change the pilot to 12a or so, but it would be nice if they documented that. The Duosida is pretty popular on the LEAF forum. I'd ask over there.

Edit: *As confirmed by Tony Williams below, it does NOT adjust the pilot, and the RAV will try to pull 16a @120v with this EVSE.


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 Post subject: Re: New RAV4 Owner w/questions
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:10 pm 
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We sell this charge cable for $199 under the brand name Go-Cable™. We offer 12 adaptors to plug into almost anything (see below). The plug that comes with our cable is a locking L6-20P.

It operates at all voltages, 100 to 264 volts.

It is ONLY 16 amps, however some cars (all GM vehicles) will automatically adjust amperage from 16 to either 8 or 12 amps on 100-135 volts.

The 2012-2014 Toyota RAV4 will limit 100-135 volt charging to 20 amps, and consume 40 amps at 200-264 volts.

https://shop.quickchargepower.com/Go-Ca ... g-GC20.htm

Just Plug-N-Charge™ adaptors are available for:

1) Adaptor "A" for RV parks, new clothes dryers, stoves and ovens (NEMA 14-60, 14-50, 14-30, 14-20)

2) Adaptor "B" for welders and industrial (NEMA 6-50)

3) Adaptor "C" for older electric clothes dryers (NEMA 10-30)

4) Adaptor "D" for RV parks with "30 amp" service" (TT-30)

5) Adaptor "E" for 30 amp light industrial (NEMA 6-30)

6) Adaptor "F" for 30 amp locking plug (NEMA L6-30)

7) Adaptor "G" for 30 amp Generators with Pure Sine Wave (NEMA L14-30)

8) Adaptor "H" for 20 amp Generators with Pure Sine Wave (NEMA L14-20)

9) Adaptor "J" for Air Conditioners 240 volt / 20 amp (NEMA 6-20)

10) ***Adaptor "K" for Air Conditioners 240 volt / 15 amp (NEMA 6-15)

11) Adaptor "L" for commercial 120 volt / 20 amp (NEMA 5-20)

12) ***Adaptor "M" for household 120 volt / 15 amp (NEMA 5-15)



***NOTE: any 15 amp circuit, like a NEMA 6-15 or 5-15, is NOT recommended for use with Go-Cable, as the 16 amp load can overload the 15 amp electrical circuit by one amp. But, in a tough situation, it may be desirable to be able to try.

An exception can be made for General Motors cars, like the Chevrolet Volt, Spark EV or Bolt EV when operating on 120 volts, which will automatically reduce power to 8 or 12 amps. There may be other cars that also restrict amps while using 120 volts, however, most other cars DO NOT automatically do this.


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