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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:01 pm 
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There is obviously still some misunderstanding here, I wasn't implying that you said that I could purchase a platinum warranty. If I could just get the following questions answered please.

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The Toyota used vehicle extended warranty offered for your car:

1) Requires an inspection of the car Understood
2) Bought from a Toyota dealer The warranty, correct?
3) The new extended warranty starts at purchase, and not concurrent with the "when sold new" of the vehicle like the Toyota Platinum warranty does. Understood

If I buy this from a non-Toyota dealer, and take it to a Toyota dealer to get it inspected, and purchase an extended warranty, will that warranty be sufficient if I have major problems down the road? I'm not understanding why the platinum warranty makes a difference for this particular vehicle.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:28 pm 
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My understanding is that the Toyota Used car warranty must be bought at the same time as the car from a Toyota dealer. If you buy the car from a non-Toyota dealer, you can't buy one.


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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:38 pm 
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davewill wrote:
My understanding is that the Toyota Used car warranty must be bought at the same time as the car from a Toyota dealer. If you buy the car from a non-Toyota dealer, you can't buy one.


I think that may be correct, but I seem to remember Larry in Seattle got the warranty after the standard warranty expired with just an inspection.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
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sr900400 wrote:
2) Bought from a Toyota dealer The warranty, correct?
3) The new extended warranty starts at purchase, and not concurrent with the "when sold new" of the vehicle like the Toyota Platinum warranty does. Understood

If I buy this from a non-Toyota dealer, and take it to a Toyota dealer to get it inspected, and purchase an extended warranty, will that warranty be sufficient if I have major problems down the road? I'm not understanding why the platinum warranty makes a difference for this particular vehicle.

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You car is NOT eligible for the "new vehicle" Platinum warranty... period.

It may be that you are both required to buy the used vehicle and the used car warranty that you are eligible for from a Toyota dealer.

At a minimum, you buy the used car warranty from a Toyota dealer and have your used Toyota (that you bought elsewhere) inspected by a Toyota dealer.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:31 pm 
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Okay, then my original question still stands, is the vehicle worth buying without an extended warranty providing that I have gone down the aforementioned checklist and found nothing wrong.

And taken it to a Toyota dealer to have them inspect it.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:43 pm 
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NO. The risk is too high without the Toyota coverage for the major Telsa components.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
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Thank you!


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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:54 pm 
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Example: I had the firmware recall done earlier this year. During this update, they either obsoleted (or "blew out") my gateway ECU. It had to be replaced. Since the car was fully covered, it cost me nothing but a week without the car waiting for the part.

BUT.... it has been estimated this "common failure" component costs $3500. you would be paying that to get a usable car.

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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:37 am 
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I plan to own mine for a while with NO Toyota warranty.
You should still have a factory drivetrain warranty for 60 months 60,000 miles.
If you encounter trouble early you can still get most fixed under warranty and trade it off if you feel it may repeat.

But honestly most repairs seem to get fixed and do not repeat. OK the transaxle gear noise has repeated but supposedly the rebuilds have the issue worked out as of mid 2016.

Yes I think the car is worth buying as long as you know it is working properly.
Also check if you can get repair history during the Toyota inspection.

No matter what warranty anyone has most of these vehicles will still be on the road long after all is expired.
Consider that the warranty costs $1,500 to $2,000+ that is a good payment toward the first repair. Or most likely just money in your pocket.

JMHO, best of luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Still worth buying without extended warranty?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:33 am 
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smkettner wrote:
Consider that the warranty costs $1,500 to $2,000+ that is a good payment toward the first repair. Or most likely just money in your pocket.


Since it is possible to get a car with a warranty (or eligible for a warranty), I would say no to getting this car.

If you like to gamble, the motor is about $15,000. The battery is $36,000. If you drive the car 125,000 miles or up to 10 years, and then you need a new motor or battery, you either junk the car or sell it "as-is". You got your money's worth.

I'm not aware of a single person who bought a motor or a battery for a RAV4 EV, but they have both been replaced under warranty.

The other items that fail:

$4000 - Onboard charger failure

$4000 - center navigation screen

$3000 - Gateway / communications "ECU" (can disable vehicle, usually a Check EV light)

$2800 - heater

$$$$$ - air conditioning

$$$$ - J1772 inlet melted

$$$$$ - Speed sensor

$$$$$ - DC to DC failure

$$ - Leaking oil from gear box (I've had this on both one RAV4 and our Mercedes B-Class ED that shares the same Tesla Model S drivetrain)

$$$$ - "CHECK EV SYSTEM" message du jour

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