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 Post subject: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV / Pre-purchase List
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:13 pm 
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This is mostly for prospective used buyers:

Any RAV4 EV car (with or without some BS "dealer used car certification") should do the following at pre-buy / pre-purchase inspection (or have a responsible person go through the list and send you the results):

1) turn on heater at full blast and feel heat come out. This is a $2500 repair, which is why you want a warranty. (Frequently fails)

2) turn on air conditioning and feel cold air (this rarely fails)

3) check tire wear (the original Yokohamas wear out at 30-40k miles)

4) check brake wear (rarely much wear)

5) look for obvious damage BELOW the car (ran over curb and damaged battery case, etc)

6) plug it into a J1772 charge station and watch it charge

7) ensure firmware 1.3.101 is updated

8) listen for motor noise (frequently replaced free of charge, rarely fails)

9) make sure center navigation screen works ($4000 to replace when not in warranty)

10) get the seat belt recall done. There is a wiper motor recall, but it's not available yet.

11) Check the battery capacity viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1625

That's about it. It's not likely that MOST Toyota dealers are going to know the car very well, or even care to do so. Use your own due diligence and don't rely on others to check these things.



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Issues with RAV4 EV:

1) Speed sensor - RECALL ITEM - vehicle will pop into neutral and stop, power steering disabled)

2) Gateway / communications "ECU" (can disable vehicle, usually a Check EV light)

3) Motor / gear box noise (requires motor replacement)

4) Heater failure (which then takes out the DC to DC)

5) DC to DC failure

6) Onboard charger failure (can't recharge vehicle... except JdeMO equipped cars with CHAdeMO quick chargers)

7) Leaking oil from gear box (I've had this on both one RAV4 and our Mercedes B-Class ED that shares the same Tesla Model S drivetrain)

8) "CHECK EV SYSTEM" message du jour (requires four ON/OFF cycles)

9) Charge Timer

10) Entunes

11) 12 volt battery

12) Charge port door sticks


Heck, I'll let everybody else decide what else to add to the list and in what order.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:34 pm 
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The battery could be the only item that gives an advance warning.

Is there a simple home test? I am thinking a minimum voltage to sit for at least a few days or week and still have enough to wake the car up.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:29 am 
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To properly test a 12 volt, it needs a load test.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:32 am 
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You did not list the Gateway ECU failure, which probably falls under #7 when it is intermittent. It can fail more completely though, causing an inability for the car to come READY.

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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:09 am 
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Also to prospective buyers.

It's not all bad as these forums may lead you to conclude.

Many many of us have had problem free vehicles for tens of thousands of miles (including mine @30k). These forums, as with many other vehicle forums, would make it seem that that the RAV4 EV is a schizophrenic pile parts as the people with problems are the most vocal. Sure, I had some early software charge timer bugs but they are largely behind us.

The RAV4 EV is a great vehicle that we continue to use and enjoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:59 am 
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TonyWilliams wrote:
To properly test a 12 volt, it needs a load test.
To crank an engine sure...
What does it take to close the main relay and start the DC/DC converter?

Anyway my battery measured 12.92 after resting about four hours. I call that good to go for an EV.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:27 am 
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TeCKis300 wrote:
Also to prospective buyers.

It's not all bad as these forums may lead you to conclude.

Many many of us have had problem free vehicles for tens of thousands of miles (including mine @30k). These forums, as with many other vehicle forums, would make it seem that that the RAV4 EV is a schizophrenic pile parts as the people with problems are the most vocal. Sure, I had some early software charge timer bugs but they are largely behind us.

The RAV4 EV is a great vehicle that we continue to use and enjoy.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:23 pm 
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+2

Tony has a very comprehensive list there. And it may be pretty close to sorted by frequency and severity. It's also interesting that Tony has at least 2 Rav4Evs and a B-class EV. We could make a guessing game out of how many Ev's does Tony have?

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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:35 pm 
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mikegerard wrote:
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Tony has a very comprehensive list there. And it may be pretty close to sorted by frequency and severity. It's also interesting that Tony has at least 2 Rav4Evs and a B-class EV. We could make a guessing game out of how many Ev's does Tony have?

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: Top Ten List of problems with RAV4 EV
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:05 pm 
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TeCKis300 wrote:
Also to prospective buyers.

It's not all bad as these forums may lead you to conclude.

Many many of us have had problem free vehicles for tens of thousands of miles (including mine @30k). These forums, as with many other vehicle forums, would make it seem that that the RAV4 EV is a schizophrenic pile parts as the people with problems are the most vocal. Sure, I had some early software charge timer bugs but they are largely behind us.

The RAV4 EV is a great vehicle that we continue to use and enjoy.


+1. I have had problems, I would have been surprised if there were no problems. There is nothing out there yet like RAV4 EV.


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