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 Post subject: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:41 am 
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I just got a 2013 RAV4 EV last week and I just installed the 40A Leviton charger in my garage. So far I haven't received a bill yet. I was wondering if anyone in Southern California, especially in the So Cal Edison area has figured out what they pay to charge their car.


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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:07 am 
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Get solar and SCE will pay you, to drive your RAV4EV.

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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:30 am 
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pchilds wrote:
Get solar and SCE will pay you, to drive your RAV4EV.


Can you elaborate on what you purchased? That would be helpful. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:15 am 
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I believe pchilds was snidely referring to SoCal Edison and the fact that PV Solar can sell its power back to SCE during the day while you get the kWh's back at night.

Check out the "Understanding" thread for a thorough discussion of the issue as far as NoCal's PG&E is concerned. Perhaps there are some SCE folks there to consult.

For me, I found that despite the tiered pricing plans currently available (E-1, E-6, E-9), the time-of-use benefit was still beneficial to me... so I converted from E-1 to E-9A.
The plan, however, is for PGE to soon offer a new EV-A rate that drops the "tiering" aspect (and emphasizing the time-of-use aspect) w.r.t. E-9A.


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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:29 am 
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I don't live in So Cal but https://www.sce.com/nrc/pev/index.html may help the OP, a little.

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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:43 pm 
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In Anaheim my TOU tops out at $0.16 KwH. So if I was empty, a full charge would cost about $4.40.


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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:51 pm 
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cwerdna wrote:
I don't live in So Cal but https://www.sce.com/nrc/pev/index.html may help the OP, a little.

I think this page is more useful because it shows the actual rates.
https://www.sce.com/wps/portal/home/res ... tial-rates

Expand the "Home and Electric Vehicle Plan" or "Electric Vehicle Plan" to see those rates. SCE appears to promote dedicated metering with the Electric Vehicle Plan, but glosses over the thousands of dollars it costs to install an additional meter. I think that money is better spent on a solar PV system.

Changing to the Home and Electric Vehicle Plan from the regular Residential Plan will cost you more during the day for your normal household usage, but filling the car is relatively cheap. At 1,000 miles per month it will only cost you $39.21/month for your car's electricity. (1000 mi, 3mi/kWh, 85% charge efficiency, $0.10/kWh Super Off-Peak).

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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:43 pm 
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Wouldn't a solar pv system cost in the 10's of thousands?


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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:03 pm 
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foxwiz wrote:
Wouldn't a solar pv system cost in the 10's of thousands?


My brother just bought his PV solar system for ~$12K, 4kw system, before federal incentives, or ~$9k after.

If you have $9k upfront, it is well worth the investment, IMHO, esp. to offset your gasser car with an EV. This offset could be as much as $2k/yr depending on your annual use for your EV versus even a Prius. ie. payback period is ~4.5 yrs, then after that it's just considered free tax-free return. ($2k return on $9k investment is over 20% -- where else can you get that tax free?!)

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 Post subject: Re: How much do you pay in electricity to charge your car
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Almost every solar installer around has plans that get you a solar PV system on your house for no up-front money and you pay less than your current electric bill to them each month. The total payback is faster if you pay up front, but it depends on your financial situation and at what rate you would have to borrow money to pay the installer. The $0 down plans also tend to work in your favor if you don't have a lot of federal tax liability to write off because they're taking the tax break.

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