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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:23 pm 
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Tell the idiots at that Toyota dealer that the recall is a mandatory US government recall... mandatory, not optional.

It might help you to physically print out the actual recall language and hand it to them. They are correct, however, in that they likely cannot do the update because they will not have the proper Tesla cable to connect Toyota TechStream to the car.

The new firmware will be 1.3.101. They need to put a software update sticker on the lower right-hand portion of the hood (when open).


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:20 pm 
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Tony:

I may be a bit behind the times, but I don't remember getting a notice about a traction motor recall. I have received notices about the seatbelt and the wiper recalls but that's it. A search of this blog for the words "traction motor recall" only shows this discussion. Do you have any more info on this recall?

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:51 am 
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There a whole thread on the "traction motor" US government recall:

viewtopic.php?p=21164#p21164

viewtopic.php?p=19516#p19516


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:17 am 
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What does the proper Tesla data cable for the Techstream look like? Can it be sourced from a place like Fry's Electronics? Where does it plug in on the RAV4 EV?

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:52 am 
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Tech26 wrote:
What does the proper Tesla data cable for the Techstream look like? Can it be sourced from a place like Fry's Electronics? Where does it plug in on the RAV4 EV?


The dealer can buy one.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:11 pm 
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A bit more data and some more confusion. The Windshield wiper and Seatbelt recalls were done. The service manager said I needed to coordinate with Toyota corporate on the "EV Traction motor" recall. So I called and email Kevin. No response so far. Meanwhile, I got home and read the service paperwork. It says that I need to contact corporate to get the traction motor recall. I tried to look up my records on the Toyota owners site but that has a password problem. When I reset my password it says it sends me an activation update, but none comes to my email address.
Here is the best part. I double checked my car last night. It has the SW update sticker version 1.3.101 Nov 15, 2015.

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:16 pm 
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SeattleRav4 wrote:
Here is the best part. I double checked my car last night. It has the SW update sticker version 1.3.101 Nov 15, 2015.


You're done... let Toyota spin in circles.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:13 am 
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Called NW Motorsports in Puyallup this morning around 9:00 and let them know I wanted to come and look at the 2013 RAV4 EV that they had for sale. Asked if they could make sure it had enough charge to at least go for a short test drive. Showed up at about 1 and they were just bringing it up front when my family and I arrived.

The range indicator stated "Lo", it had the "Plug in soon" warnings, and the turtle was lit up. The salesman (a nice guy that I ended up liking anyway) said he thought it was a gas hybrid, not a full electric, so he didn't understand what I was asking earlier in the day. He offered to take it around back and charge it up.

I drove with him around to the back side of the building and he came out with a 110v extension cord. I just smiled and said, "Charging on that cord would take 2 days, and this doesn't look like the best place to be parked for that long".

Long story short, the car was in slightly better shape than the ones I had seen at Paramount Motors. The paint and interior were just a little less worn, and the big winner was the brand new tires. They're cheap-o tires, but hey, I don't have to worry about replacing them right off the bat, and they're not mismatched like one of the RAVs at Paramount.

I ended up buying the car without really test driving it and immediately went to the nearest free 240v charge station that I found on Plug Share. Got there, couldn't find the connector, decided it was probably behind the locked gate area (it's a Saturday). Next option? A nearby Nissan Dealership of course.

Made it to Nissan, got plugged in, confirmed it was charging at 240v. Left it there for two and a half hours while we ran some errands and ate dinner. Came back expecting 30-40 miles of range.... Only had 9 miles of range indicated and it said "Charging Stopped" I had not touched the charge cable handle yet, and when I did, it went in a little farther and the chrome latch piece went "CLICK!" and popped into place.

So, I figure someone partially unplugged me shortly after we had left to run errands. My family drove home in our other car and I baby sat my new car for a little over an hour. Home was 25 miles away, it was 27 degrees F outside, and there was a good sized hill to climb just before reaching home. I unplugged with 28 miles because the Nissan dealer was locking up for the night.

No cabin heater, no seat heater, no radio, turned the NAV/multi display off, but did have the headlights on. Drove 55 mph for a few miles and saw the range prediction was matching my actual miles driven. Then noticed I even gained a mile, so I bumped the cruise control up to 60. Had 5 miles remaining when I reached the hill climb part. Halfway up the big hill the range went from 5 miles straight to "LO"

Made it home and plugged into 110. I'm working on getting my 240v 40 amp EVSE installed. Hopefully I'll have that ready at the end of next weekend!

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:40 pm 
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Going from 5 miles straight to LO is the normal behavior. It's a shame that they didn't keep more charge in the car while it was on the lot. Do you have any idea how long it was there?

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 Post subject: Re: Buying a RAV4 EV in Seattle
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:13 am 
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It was probably on the lot for a few months. It charged up to 102 miles on the GOM today and wasn't even in extended charge mode (probably because I had the climate control turned off). It has minor drive unit whine and the splash shield between the front wheels needs to be resecured, but so far I'm really happy with it.

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