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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 am 
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TonyWilliams wrote:
When you get the "free one", pay an electrician to open it up and see if it is a standard wiring connection. If so, order the TucsonEV cable and plug and have the electrician install it.

If not (as extremely unlikely that is), then sell the free unit and buy one you like.
The "free" charger has strings attached for a period of time. It appears to be at least 6 months of driving data (miles driven, gas used in PHEV, public charging usage) and of course they collect data from the EVSE also.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:24 pm 
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miimura wrote:
TonyWilliams wrote:
When you get the "free one", pay an electrician to open it up and see if it is a standard wiring connection. If so, order the TucsonEV cable and plug and have the electrician install it.

If not (as extremely unlikely that is), then sell the free unit and buy one you like.
The "free" charger has strings attached for a period of time. It appears to be at least 6 months of driving data (miles driven, gas used in PHEV, public charging usage) and of course they collect data from the EVSE also.


Again, I'm confident that you can put on a longer cord. If not, I guess you have to wait 6 months to replace the whole unit.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:56 am 
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I just got a call from a local electrician to install the free charging station. he is asking $300 to pull the permit (i think it includes the permit fee). can I avoid this? Can I have the permit pulled myself? Has anyone done that? appreciate your help..

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:05 am 
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knrav4ev wrote:
I just got a call from a local electrician to install the free charging station. he is asking $300 to pull the permit (i think it includes the permit fee). can I avoid this? Can I have the permit pulled myself? Has anyone done that? appreciate your help..

thanks,
Ku
As the homeowner, you can always pull the permit yourself. However, you will likely need documentation about the details of the work to be performed. Sometimes electricians would find you pulling the permit yourself helpful and will provide the documentation, sometimes they'd rather just collect the labor to do it, especially if they have an intern or something in the office to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:30 am 
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knrav4ev wrote:
I just got a call from a local electrician to install the free charging station. he is asking $300 to pull the permit (i think it includes the permit fee). can I avoid this? Can I have the permit pulled myself? Has anyone done that? appreciate your help..

thanks,
Ku

What city are you in? You don't have to answer but what does your city charge? San Jose charges $310 :evil:. The contractor wants another $50 for the load calculations and few other things. I'll bite that bullet on that as I want it done right and don't want to go thru additional hassles.

Can you update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:29 pm 
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I am in east bay.. my city San Ramon charges by the value of project and in this case, it is approx. ~100.

cwerdna wrote:
knrav4ev wrote:
I just got a call from a local electrician to install the free charging station. he is asking $300 to pull the permit (i think it includes the permit fee). can I avoid this? Can I have the permit pulled myself? Has anyone done that? appreciate your help..

thanks,
Ku

What city are you in? You don't have to answer but what does your city charge? San Jose charges $310 :evil:. The contractor wants another $50 for the load calculations and few other things. I'll bite that bullet on that as I want it done right and don't want to go thru additional hassles.

Can you update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.


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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:23 pm 
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miimura wrote:
knrav4ev wrote:
I just got a call from a local electrician to install the free charging station. he is asking $300 to pull the permit (i think it includes the permit fee). can I avoid this? Can I have the permit pulled myself? Has anyone done that? appreciate your help..

thanks,
Ku
As the homeowner, you can always pull the permit yourself. However, you will likely need documentation about the details of the work to be performed. Sometimes electricians would find you pulling the permit yourself helpful and will provide the documentation, sometimes they'd rather just collect the labor to do it, especially if they have an intern or something in the office to do it.


In Hermosa Beach an EVSE permit is free, but you have to get clearance from SCE that they have the right infrastructure. Basically that means they look at the transformer on the pole in the street and other loads in the neighborhood.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:30 am 
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fusiondynamics wrote:
Just give them a call and usually they can give you a estimate of the permit. It's not that expensive. It's expensive when the contractor decides that he wants to pull the permit for you and charges you 3 hours of his time to do it. I would recommend telling the contractor that comes to do your install that you will pull the permit yourself as the homeowner. The guy that came wanted to charge me 3 extra hours @ $75 per hour to pull the permit plus the cost of the actual permit. That added a $225 charge for about 30mins of his time.

Contractor that AV uses has emailed me and spoken to me and for San Jose, they say it will be $360 for the permit ($310 to the city and $50 for the electrician to do the drawing, load calculations, etc.) She said that SJ is a really expensive city.

Trying to get an answer out of the city over the phone was a big waste of time. I finally got a human and she didn't even know but could lookup how much they'd be charging others: $309.66. I think she even admitted it's more than SF a whole bunch of other cities.

City never got back to me w/a definitive answer. :roll:

The electrical contractor who had been very slow in giving me an answer as to whether I answered their questions sufficiently, whether my pictures were adequate and whether there'd be any non-covered special/extra work needed FINALLY got back to me today. I would've had to get a permission form filled out by the owner of the house (my parents) signed notarized (not free). Appointment was supposed to be Saturday 9/21.

Anyhow, they basically said that my load center was insufficient, that they'd have to dig to run another cable and it'd end up being ~$5K. Since they knew about my cost concerns, they knew it was going to be a no go... Oh well.

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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:07 pm 
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Got my "free" EVSE installed today:
http://dmsan.tumblr.com

30A Aerovironment, 15ft cord. I will have to back into my garage to charge as the 15ft is not long enough but that's okay given I have a backup camera, and my mirrors fold at a touch of a button. 8-) I am lucky that my breaker box was conveniently located inches from where my EVSE needed to be.

Cost was $300 for permit fees ($110 from Cupertino, $190 for Electrician to get the permit for me)
I was going to pull the permit myself, but since there was no charge for the unit itself nor the labor for installation, I'll let them deal with the paperwork, load calculations, etc since it can't be applied for online in Cupertino.

After the lease deal and a "free" charger I am a happy camper :D


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 Post subject: Re: Free charging station form EV Soltutions
PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:49 pm 
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Hi Rav4buyer:
Good job :)

I am still waiting for mine.. Ordered (at the time of lease) on 09/09. How long did it take for yours to get installed?

thanks.

rav4buyer wrote:
Got my "free" EVSE installed today:
http://dmsan.tumblr.com

30A Aerovironment, 15ft cord. I will have to back into my garage to charge as the 15ft is not long enough but that's okay given I have a backup camera, and my mirrors fold at a touch of a button. 8-) I am lucky that my breaker box was conveniently located inches from where my EVSE needed to be.

Cost was $300 for permit fees ($110 from Cupertino, $190 for Electrician to get the permit for me)
I was going to pull the permit myself, but since there was no charge for the unit itself nor the labor for installation, I'll let them deal with the paperwork, load calculations, etc since it can't be applied for online in Cupertino.

After the lease deal and a "free" charger I am a happy camper :D


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